I Hated Four12 and Wanted to Take Down Andrew Selley

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March, 2026

Arie Jacobs publicly accused Andrew Selley of being a heretic and labelled Four12 a cult – launching a social media campaign to warn others and discredit the movement. In this candid interview, Andrew and Arie revisit that season and the real damage it caused. Arie shares how conviction brought him face-to-face with his own anger, assumptions, and actions, leading him to take responsibility and make things right. What follows is a story of repentance, honest conversation, and restored relationship. What happens when we’re willing to admit we got it wrong?

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Andrew Selley

Andrew is the apostolic leader of Four12 (F12) and the lead elder of multisite, Joshua Generation Church. He has been in full-time ministry since 1996. After serving on the NCMI apostolic team for five years, he founded Four12 in 2011. Andrew is based in California, USA, with his wife, Emma, and their daughter, Enyah. Follow him on Facebook and Instagram.

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Arie Jacobs

Arie is a devoted follower of Christ, husband and father. He lives in Mossel Bay, South Africa with his family.

Sessions

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Body Builders – Prophecy Builds the Church

How the gift of prophecy builds and strengthens the body of Christ.

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I Will Never Join Four12 – A Story of Restoration

Andrew Selley, Grant Baker

A journey of restoring trust and friendship when relationships break down.

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Why We Value Partnership

What is Four12? A look at why biblical partnership matters.

Mike Davies, a speaker wearing glasses and a dark top, speaking with hands raised against a neutral background

Our Approach to Theology

How Four12 approaches diversity in theological beliefs in partnership.

Andrew Selley speaking into a microphone with hand raised, overlaid text: "I Saw Jesus — Am I Deceived or a Deceiver?"

I Saw Jesus – Am I Deceived or a Deceiver?

Does Andrew’s testimony of seeing Jesus align with Scripture?

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Positioned for a Double Portion

Jonathan Stanfield

Like Elisha following Elijah, we’re invited to step into a fresh anointing.

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The Significance of Nurture as a Mother – Part 2

Angela Verreynne

How do we create a secure bond with our children?

Illustration of a mother holding a baby beside the title 'The Significance of Nurture · Part One'

The Significance of Nurture as a Mother – Part 1

Angela Verreynne

Why creating healthy emotional attachments with our children is so important.

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The War to Be a Man

Restoring God’s order for leadership at home and at church.

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How to Prepare a Sermon

Michael d'Offay

How to interpret and apply Scripture when preparing to preach and teach.

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Yoga – Transcendence or Trap?

Michael d'Offay

The truth about the origin and spiritual roots of yoga.

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Succession & Transition

Making room for God to move and others to succeed in seasons of transition.

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A Deacon’s High Call

Recalibrating our understanding of deacons in God’s Kingdom.

Chris Staples speaking into a handheld microphone, wearing a blue T‑shirt and glasses against a blurred autumnal background

God in Admin

Stewarding the life of God through good governance.

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Marks of a Healthy Church

Jonathan Stanfield

Looking at healthy family to build healthy church.

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True Repentance

The transformative power of repentance.

Ryan Kingsley speaking at a lectern with microphone, slide text reading “Open Hearts Open Homes”

Open Hearts, Open Homes

Kingdom values are lived out in our homes

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A Heart After God

Valuable lessons from David’s life

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This is That

God is once again pouring out his Spirit; we need to prepare our hearts to receive him.

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Dying to Live

What does it mean to die with Christ and to live with Him?

Peter Nembhard speaking into a microphone to an audience at Joshua Generation Church

01 God’s Mandate to Preach

Unpacking the purpose of preaching and tools to prepare a sermon.

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02 Powerful, Passion & Precision

How to effectively preach and deliver powerful sermons that bring people to an understanding of Jesus Christ.

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Worship That Pleases God – Part 1

What it means to cultivate a heart of worship that pleases the Father.

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Worship That Pleases God – Part 2

What it means to cultivate a heart of worship that pleases the Father.

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Walking in Christ

As you have received Christ so walk in Him.

Brad Verreynne speaking at a lectern, holding a microphone with guitar and music stands behind him

Healthy Leadership

How do we lead others healthily and authentically?

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Deception & Compromise

A reminder to be aware and mindful of deception and compromise in the church (false teachings and theology) so as not to stray from the truth of the Gospel.

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A Last Call to Restore

A call to genuinely repent before God, restore His truths, and hold fast to the things of God so that we might be able to prepare the way for the coming of the King.

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Contentment in God

Finding contentment in God no matter what season we may be in.

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The Role of an Elder’s Wife

An elder and his wife are called to serve God’s Kingdom together.

The Hope of Easter

The resurrection story of Jesus Christ, woven together and told by a few of the nations represented within Four12.

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Marriage & Divorce

Michael d'Offay

What does the Bible say about marriage and divorce?

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Why Did You Not Fear?

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

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False Prophecies & Trump, What Now?

How should the church respond when so many prophets got it wrong?

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Killing Zombies

How to die and kill the flesh daily in order to become all who Christ has made us to be.

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There’s Something About Sunday

Why is the Sabbath so important?

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Why Do We Fast & Pray?

Michael d'Offay, Ruan Slabbert

Fasting 101 – a necessary spiritual discipline.

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In Light of Eternity

We are not going to live forever.

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Who Appoints Elders?

Adam Hellyer, Andrew Selley

The role of the apostolic in choosing elders.

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Changed in His Presence

How a life-saving operation brought a perspective-altering revelation.

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Tithing & the New Testament – Part 2

Direction for tithing in the life of the church - part 2.

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Tithing & the New Testament – Part 1

Direction for tithing in the life of the church - part 1.

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Andrew Selley Prophetic Message

Some direction for the prophetic in the life of the church.

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Hope for the World

How should we reflect the hope of Jesus to the world?

Emma Selley, a woman with long blonde hair, seated on an outdoor sofa speaking

Being an Elder’s Wife

The role and responsibilities of an elder’s wife.

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The Joy in Surrender

How do we surrender our lives to gain more of what God has for us?